kmkmiller wrote:let me go further on something here. Just thought about this a different way. What if the need to fit things it into the larger framework is, in itself, a false goal. No. Not false. I mean... taken too far. Basically, if you bring up Carol to reinforce some other consistent motifs/images in the movie (self-confident talented brunette actress who has a rapport with Adam), then that would be enough to show how she fits.
kmkmiller wrote:well, the thing is we are dealing with a director who encourages both an open interpretation, but Lynch also encourages a "closed" interpretation. Basically he said that no one has ever figured out Eraserhead, which means there is something we're all still missing as Lynch fans.
This encourages us to keep looking, but it also dangles out before us a "closed" answer. It's the big questions of life. Journey or the destination?? And the journey is fun, but people would not be climbing mt. everest if there wasn't a peak, or if they did, it would be to prove there is a peak we just haven't found yet.
Exploration and Destinations are false choices. they are handmaidens to each other.
woolfspersona wrote:Is it generally agreed on here though that some characters in any story can be symbols of another character without necessarily being that character? For example, I'm taking a herpetology class right now. Lissamphibians are often also called amphibians, and all amphibians are lissamphibians, but not all lissamphibians are amphibians. I feel like Camilla would be the lissamphibian and Carol the amphibian. "Don't you forget, I'm the girl that's playing this part" is probably a reference to Camilla's amnesia. Sorry, I haven't slept in two days studying for that herpetology lab exam and can't get it off my mind!
woolfspersona wrote:Looks like some really nice cinematography. I'd love to watch it. And the actress' name is Carroll, but she looks like blonde Camilla, and brunette Camilla is the girl who got to play Sylvia North. Strange, strange.
Siku wrote: And Diane HAS forgotten. She's forgotten that Carol is the girl that's playing the part of Camilla, Diane's fantasy lover. Diane is in the process of RECASTING the lead actress, and it's bugging Diane DAY and NIGHT.
Erniesam wrote:Betty ---> Camilla Rhodes (Betty look-a-like in dream) ---> Carol (transition between blonde Betty look-a-like Camilla Rhodes and Camilla) ---> Camilla ---> Camilla Rhodes (blonde in daydream) ---> Camilla Rhodes (the real one with dark hair on the picture).
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