The final explanation, at last

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The final explanation, at last

Postby Sparkie0911 » 01 Oct 2011

After watching the movie a few hundred times, forward, backwards, frame by frame et cetera it suddenly struck me. In the second lesbian scène where Naomi sits on top, where is she reaching for between the legs? Its a penis. The story is that Dan (Dan? Yes Dan) wants to become a women (his head looks even like Laura's). If you look at the movie again, suddenly you see the light. Okay, I have a few loose end here and there but it makes sense now doesn't it? Laura had an unfinished transgender opp because she had no money.

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Sparkie0911 » 01 Oct 2011

In addition: Pay attention to who of the girls is wearing a red piece of clothing, there is also something with cabs, cases and appartments. Maybey coco is the pimp and she lookes like Betty Boop, she is sure a film caracter! Thats it! Coco looks like Betty and the blond is called? Men, this is better than sudoku! The Laura accident has really happened but when she sleeps, she dreams. Furthermore, she had a sexual affair with Diane who she wants to be a succesfull actrice in stead of a call girl. She is simply jalous on the femeninity of Diane.

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Bob » 01 Oct 2011

Gender confusion climaxed by suicide attempt? I smell another movie connection ...

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Sparkie0911 » 01 Oct 2011

Whats the movie called then? Sounds interesting.

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Bob » 01 Oct 2011

[spoiler]The Tenant[/spoiler]

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby marksman. » 03 Oct 2011

Sparkie0911 wrote:Laura had an unfinished transgender opp because she had no money.


Yes, that would explain why her tits look so fake!

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Rachel » 03 Oct 2011

This bullshit shouldn't be allowed.
Do something, Admin.

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Rachel » 04 Oct 2011

By the way, The Tenant is the best movie ever after Mulholland Drive. And Trelkovsky best character.

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Sparkie0911 » 04 Oct 2011

No,

i am realy serious. I think that Laura her face looks, hoe shall I put it, rather big, outlined, rough? Just like Rebekah by the way. And in the first part of the film she doesn't know who she is, Remember? And yes, she has obvious fake tits that are deliberatly touched and shown in the first lesbian scène. Furthermore, the first time I saw Dan I thought his face shape looks like Laura's. And Dan says 'there is à man'. So admin, sorry to say that this forum is also visited by non open minded MD fans :nod: .

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby The Cowboy » 04 Oct 2011

Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion, they are closed minded? Hmmm. I would ask if the sex-change "theory" adds anything to the overall theme of the movie? Is there other evidence that would lend itself to this idea of yours? If not, count me in among the "closed-minded."

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Sparkie0911 » 04 Oct 2011

Notice the happy face at the end of my message. It is not my intention to label people or to insult, sorry if I did. I find it hard to come up with evidence in the true sence of the word. But what kind of proof do we have for the otter theories? We could use the proces of elimination but if we do that with the other theories we stumble on the same problem. Lets try it with a question: whats the relevance or goal of the diner scène with Dan. And my first question is also still unanswered, where is Naomi reaching for between the legs of Laura in the 2nd lesbian scène?

The relevance of my theory isn't important, we know that Lynch uses probably stories hè experienced himself like abuse. Its Lynch his films, not mine.

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Siku » 04 Oct 2011

The final explanation? If Dan looks like Rita why is it Diane reaching for a penis? If Dan want's to be a women why is Diane lesbian? What exactly does this theory explain, please? What evidence is there of this?

Sparkie0911 wrote:what kind of proof do we have for the otter theories?


The film? Cinema is a language and Lynch speaks that language albeit in an avant garde style. Everything in the classical theory comes from the film, and from reasonable supposition in line with the film, e.g. that the money given to the hit man is for a hit. Could be wrong, but it's a reasonable supposition. You can't just say 'I think the money was for a sex change op, or a limo or a cake', with no evidence.

Sparkie0911 wrote:my first question is also still unanswered, where is Naomi reaching for between the legs of Laura in the 2nd lesbian scène?


Her lover's sexual organs? Hate to be too obvious... maybe there's a limo down there?

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Sparkie0911 » 04 Oct 2011

Hmm,

I am convinced that you know a lot about the classical way films have to be explained, thank you for that. I think it is strange that there are so many questions people ask about the plot. Also about the theory that Naomi plays a call girl in the film. Anyway, i still think thats is what makes the movie brilliant, everybody can see a story in it.

On the other side (yep, here I go again), it is not strange tot love someone who was a man and is tranforming. The transforming could have a meaning.

And if you talk about proof, the blue key was never given to Naomi and she never gave the money. And the guy is clumsy for a hitman. And the relevance of the scenes with the hooker on the street, and the diner scene?

I searched the forum and there is no straight answer I gues.

Still there are 2 questions left. What is the meaning of the wobly camera views and what is Lynches e-mail adress?

Thanks for giving some feed back.

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby blu » 04 Oct 2011

The Cowboy wrote:Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion, they are closed minded? Hmmm. I would ask if the sex-change "theory" adds anything to the overall theme of the movie? Is there other evidence that would lend itself to this idea of yours? If not, count me in among the "closed-minded."

This, pretty much.

Perhaps Rachel might have expressed herself differently, but having people on forums who are prepared to be blunt and call others on what they consider to be bullshit is not always a bad thing. And it doesn't necessarily mean they are closed minded.

Personally I don't think that there is anything in the film that would support this gender confusion theory. and I also agree that it doesn't bring anything new to the theme/story/whatever, but if I went round acting like a power hungry moderator every time an idea cropped up that I didn't agree with then half the threads in here would be locked.

;-)

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Re: The final explanation, at last

Postby Sparkie0911 » 04 Oct 2011

Rachel wrote:By the way, The Tenant is the best movie ever after Mulholland Drive. And Trelkovsky best character.


Which version? 2010?

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