An observation.

We see 4 different 'brooms' in this film and, for the most part, something terrible happens at their locations.

The first broom - This is a crude one hanging over the cinderblock wall that surrounds the dumpster behind Winkies. This is where Dan is scared to death.

The second broom - When Adam asks the parking attendant about the guys coming out of the limo, we see a guy across the street eating. There is a push-broom leaning up against the fence next to him. Adam proceeds to bash the limo. (Then the whole scene across the street changes)

The third broom - This one is an electric one, a vacuum, being pushed by the poor dude in Ed's building. Joe shoots him and two other people.

The fourth broom - This one is seen in Diane's apartment, between the fridge and the stove. Something terrible happened here, that we did not see, is all I can guess.

Is there any connection to the fact that we see four different Aunt Ruth's?

Does anyone recall any other instances where we see a broom?

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While I'm on here I want to post another observation I made a while back but never posted. It could kinda surround what may have happened around the fourth broom mentioned above.

When we see the couch scene with Diane and Camilla, look at the position Camilla is lying in. You only get to see it briefly as Diane is climbing over the couch and in the action of sitting down. Camilla's knees are bent and pointing to the back of the couch. Her upper torso is laying flat. She is wearing a black dress, where the top has been pulled down to her waist, and sandal-like heels. Just flip Camilla up on her side so that her upper torso is facing the back of the couch and, viola, she looks like the 'blonde in bed'.

And doesn't Camilla's attire look a lot like the clothing on the floor of Havenhurst when Rita is in the shower?

Also, we saw something else in the couch scene that we never see again. There is a green vase with two flowers in it sitting on the table. Where did it go? Did it break? Is that why Diane had to go and get a broom...to clean it up after it broke? I sometimes think that the scene with Diane and her neighbor, as the neighbor picks up her things, happens so that we notice that this vase is gone. The key and the ashtray are red herrings to draw our attention away from the fact that this vase is no longer there.

There also seems to be four different limos. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Limo #1 - This is the limo that brought both Laura Harring's character and Diane up Mulholland Drive
Limo #2 - Belongs to the Castigliane brothers (the one Adam beat)
Limo #3 - Brought Kenny to Adam's house
Limo #4 - Carried Irene and her companion

I also have an argument that may point to there being four different cabs in the film.

I read a forum thread somewhere where people were arguing about whether the audition scenes were completely made up or not. The argument was over Betty not appearing to pay the cabbie at the studio entrance.

When Betty left Rita she told her to be ready because she was going to keep the cab waiting.

Isn't it possible that Betty had the cabbie wait at the studio as well? She didn't pay him because he was waiting? By the way, this gives a whole new meaning behind why she looked at her watch in Adam's studio. She wasn't thinking of Rita. They didn't have a set time that they had to go to Sierra Bonita. She was thinking of that cab meter running.

So, it could be possible that there were four cabs.

Cab #1 - Picks up Aunt Ruth
Cab #2 - Picks up Betty at LAX
Cab #3 - Takes Betty to her audition and then takes Betty and Rita to Sierra Bonita
Cab #4 - Takes Betty and Rita to Club Silencio


What's up with all the 4's? And here's some fun facts. A square has four sides. A 3-D box has 6 sides. When looking at a 3-D box you can only see 3 of the sides at any given time.

Just sharing some thoughts.

marksman wrote:Coco is willing to accept that this is going on, as long as it is kept indoors and out of sight. And she makes sure that she doesn't see it herself (Look at the scene with Louise Bonner). Now, when Wilkin's dog makes a mess outside, this is unacceptable for her. So, for me, the broom symbolizes the covering up of child abuse by family members and neighbours.

Very nice. Really like the dog crap idea. One of the better explanations I've heard taking it beyond David's occasionally juvenile humour.



And vicster, interesting observations. Lynch is certainly playing around with numbers in MD and sets of 4s is a cool thing to look out for. He certainly seeks a balance of things like that in his scenes and films. I read a quote from him about how he "scores" everything in each scene (a table might be a 2, and an actor a 7, and a couch a 4 ... quite abstract) and he likes the things on show to add up to a certain number. He's a very unique and idiosyncratic guy.

Something else. I've always had a problem with the 'Laney' scene. What purpose does it serve? To tell us Joe is looking for Rita/Camilla? So what. We would come to that conclusion at the end of the film, so why point it out twice.

Maybe Joe's looking for Rita/Camilla is not what that scene with Laney is showing us. Maybe he's some kind of very low budget casting agent/director for some very low budget film.

He's looking for both a blonde and a brunette who are a little beat up. The scene with Laney depicts his finding a beat-up blonde, but he still needs to find a beat-up brunette. He asks her is she's seen any.

Finding 'street girls' who are already a little beat up saves money. No need for make-up to make them look beat up, and 'street girls' will probably work cheap.

He's not specifically looking for Rita/Camilla...we just assumed that.

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What I'm getting at, with all this stuff, is that there may be 4 stories here. I think that if we look hard enough we'll even find the 'names' of these stories and who starred in each story before everything got 'mixed together'. (See my thread on 'Same old story...repeating')

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BTW Marksman, I also like the dog doody idea you have. :)

Here we go again...you're watching my thought process in action...lol!

Is Joe making a snuff film? Is the snuff film called, simply, "The Girl"? Is Mr. Roque the client he's making the film for? Did he kill Ed to get a hold of that black book which had names and numbers of pimps? Do the pimps, then, give him access to girls to star in this film? Girls who probably won't be missed if they're killed in a snuff film?

vicster111 wrote:There also seems to be four different limos. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Limo #1 - This is the limo that brought both Laura Harring's character and Diane up Mulholland Drive
Limo #2 - Belongs to the Castigliane brothers (the one Adam beat)
Limo #3 - Brought Kenny to Adam's house
Limo #4 - Carried Irene and her companion

A limo driver picks up red-headed woman next to Sierra Bonita apartments and loads her luggage in trunk of the limo. That should kill the 'vehicles of four' theory if appearances of a blue van or appearances of Porsche's didn't.

Though it is obvious she has a driver, I'll have to look at the scene again to determine if that is a limo. But you could be right.

Thinking about all the stuff I've posted lately has spawned yet another idea (with some help from dk23). But I want to think on it more before I start a new thread.

There's a very broom-like symbol over the Silencio sign...

somethingbad wrote:There's a very broom-like symbol over the Silencio sign...

Nice catch!

At the risk of taking us off-topic, something else cool and tangentially related. Those bricks that you see in the doorway there. They were special bricks designed by architect Frank Lloyd Wright. The same (or very similar) can be seen used to build the house that David Lynch lives in which used to belong to Frank Lloyd Wright's son.



Lost Highway, anyone?

And there's more trivia.

Frank Lloyd Wrights house, built using those bricks, was used in Blade Runner.

Linky: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8109016.stm

It was also used by David in a Calvin Klein advert

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This is a great blog post about all the different films that the house was used for:

http://blog.ounodesign.com/2009/07/08/a ... nis-house/

Yup! That looks like a broom at Silencio to me. Good catch!

A broom can also be seen at 49:59 - Adam's employee uses it to clean the yard.

If the palm cluster or whatever it is is a broom (and I've always liked that idea) than I guess we get a bit of a revisit to that in Diane scene with Joe. A palm branch (or the like) blowing in the wind behind Diane. If I remember correctly, it's not there and all of a sudden it's there - swaying in the breeze.

Nice catch, ctyankee.

I have a theory about why the brooms we see at Winkie's are so extremely crude. Is it because we are shown an extremely crude version of something else during this scene with Diane and Joe?

To help you understand what I'm getting at, remember that Aunt Ruth went to a kitchen drawer first.