Dream within dream scenario 'ala Inception

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Dream within dream scenario 'ala Inception

Postby theneitherbothe » 20 Jan 2012

It has been raised as a theory that the suicide at the end could be a device to 'wake the dreamer up, as one cannot die in their own dream'. This indicates multiple dream levels, and appeals to me due to the film language of that scene (it appeared stylised to suggest this, and the location on the bed at the gunshot neither matches the discovered dead body, nor the pillow scene at the beginning).
If this is a thread already progressing, could someone kindly direct me to it.
I find this theory appealing because if the suicide is actually forcing a waking from a dream, then where does the next scene occur? - I would suggest the next scene would be the CINEMA, and the AUDIENCE would then be complicit in the dreaming, and therefore in THE FILM ITSELF. The blurred boundary between film/dreaming is accentuated and the audience leaves the cinema (the cinema I watched the movie in was blue ) with a heightened reality, having woken from their own dream.
Appreciate any comments/criticism of this view toward examining what this theory does to countering the starkness of the overriding theory that suggests dream 2/3-reality 1/3 -end of film -go home. I suggest this theory includes the audience and expands the role of cinema (which Lynch must be aiming at) more broadly. Cheers

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Re: Dream within dream scenario 'ala Inception

Postby Bob » 02 Feb 2012

Here's a related theory from our website: Dream within a dream

Maybe I should give it another watch with this setup in mind. :hmm:

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Re: Dream within dream scenario 'ala Inception

Postby Siku » 02 Feb 2012

Apologies I can't find the thread but I know there has been some discussion of whetehr Diane's suicide is real. The events after the suicide seem to be dreamed by the same dreamer.

Has it been suggested that Diane could have taken an overdose? Falls asleep (opening shot of pillow) than dreams the whole film. As she dreams of committing suicide she (mis)represents it as a gun rather than pills, but essentially as the film closes she is drfiting off into death.

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Re: Dream within dream scenario 'ala Inception

Postby Erskine » 28 Feb 2012

Jeffries: It was a dream! We live inside a dream!

Jeffries: Well now, I'm not gonna talk about Judy. In fact, we're not gonna talk about Judy at all, we're gonna keep her out of it.
Cooper: [bewildered] Gordon?
Gordon: I KNOW, COOP!
Jeffries: Who do you think this is there?
Albert: Suffered some bumps on the old noggin, hey, Phil?
Gordon: WHAT THE HELL DID HE SAY THERE, ALBERT? THAT'S SPECIAL AGENT DALE COOPER! FOR GOD'S SAKES, JEFFRIES, WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN? YOU'VE BEEN GONE DAMN NEAR TWO YEARS!
Jeffries: The stories that I wanna tell you about...


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Re: Dream within dream scenario 'ala Inception

Postby ctyankee » 28 Feb 2012

Is that from Fire Walk with Me?

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Re: Dream within dream scenario 'ala Inception

Postby Erskine » 28 Feb 2012

Yes, had watched it lastnight and Jeffries line "It was a dream, we live inside a dream" stuck out, eventhough I have watched it several times this post made me think about it.

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Re: Dream within dream scenario 'ala Inception

Postby Erskine » 28 Feb 2012

Garmonbozia. Sudden thought that that is what the man behind winkies is.

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Re: Dream within dream scenario 'ala Inception

Postby blu » 28 Feb 2012

Erskine wrote:Jeffries: It was a dream! We live inside a dream!

Jeffries: Well now, I'm not gonna talk about Judy. In fact, we're not gonna talk about Judy at all, we're gonna keep her out of it.
Cooper: [bewildered] Gordon?
Gordon: I KNOW, COOP!
Jeffries: Who do you think this is there?
Albert: Suffered some bumps on the old noggin, hey, Phil?
Gordon: WHAT THE HELL DID HE SAY THERE, ALBERT? THAT'S SPECIAL AGENT DALE COOPER! FOR GOD'S SAKES, JEFFRIES, WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN? YOU'VE BEEN GONE DAMN NEAR TWO YEARS!
Jeffries: The stories that I wanna tell you about...


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FWWM was the 1st Lynch film I saw and I don't think I have ever WTF'd more in my life than watching that whole thing play out. One of the most uncanny things ever committed to celluloid.

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Re: Dream within dream scenario 'ala Inception

Postby kmkmiller » 17 Jul 2012

The "we live inside a dream" line from Jeffries, I think that's him talking as and about black lodge inhabitants. I dont want to consider the idea that twin peaks, all of it, is a dream. Not just yet.

The idea that Diane is trying to wake herself up by killing herself in a dream is fantastic. That's exactly what she does, only she wakes up as the bum, and the only thing the bum remembers of the dream is betty and Rita with a betty wig bathed in a white light.


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